Will CERN Destroy The World? (Updated)
No it wont, but a pretty provocative thought eh? Let’s do some research. Bear with me, it’ll be fun, really.
I’ll admit up front that this is a LONG post and includes a lot of jargon, but it is the best, most complete summation of both sides that I could come up with. I’ve included dozens of links to other sites and videos plus a list of resources at the bottom for the LHC, CERN, Higgs Boson and for the End of the World theories too.
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Background
What is CERN?
Good question. CERN is an an organization of European nations based in Switzerland with the really smart folks who invented the World Wide Web. Ok, here’s who they are in a bit more detail.
CERN currently has approximately 2,600 full-time employees. Some 7,931 scientists and engineers (representing 500 universities and 80 nationalities), about half of the world’s particle physics community, work on experiments conducted at CERN.
As an international facility, the CERN sites are not officially under Swiss or French jurisdiction and includes the organization’s fleet of fire trucks.
Member states’ contributions to CERN for the year 2008 totaled around USD 990 million.
Most of the activities at CERN are currently directed towards building a new collider, the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) and the experiments for it. The LHC represents a large-scale, worldwide scientific cooperation project. Physics experiments are expected to start May 2008, delayed due to an inner triplet magnet assembly failing a pressure test in March 2007.
The LHC tunnel is located 100 meters underground, in the region between the Geneva airport and the nearby Jura mountains. It uses the 27 km circumference circular tunnel previously occupied by LEP which was closed down in November 2000. CERN’s existing PS/SPS accelerator complexes will be used to pre-accelerate protons which will then be injected into the LHC.
Six experiments (CMS, ATLAS, LHCb, TOTEM, LHC-forward and ALICE) are currently being built, and will be running on the collider; each of them will study particle collisions under a different point of view, and with different technologies.
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OK, So What’s the worst that could happen, really?
Holy Fracking S@%# Batman!!! Shut this damn thing down, now!!!
Well, let’s slow down a bit, OK.
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What The Doomsayers Predict
Walter L. Wagner and Luis Sancho contend that scientists at CERN, have played down the chances that the collider could produce, among other horrors, a tiny black hole, which, they say, could eat the Earth. Or it could spit out something called a “strangelet” that would convert our planet to a shrunken dense dead lump of something called “strange matter.” It could wake and summon the Elder gods including Cthulhu. (OK, my idea, but that would be totally cool!) Their suit also says CERN has failed to provide an environmental impact statement as required under the National Environmental Policy Act. Admittedly that’s one cosmic ass-whooping on the planet.
They have filed a lawsuit March 21 in Federal District Court, in Honolulu, seeking a temporary restraining order prohibiting CERN from proceeding with the accelerator until it has produced a safety report and an environmental assessment. It names the federal Department of Energy, the Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory, the National Science Foundation and CERN as defendants.
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A Matter Of Perspective
This all sounds nuts, but really it’s not so nuts that we shouldn’t look into it. There are two causes for some concern: one is that LHC might create a black hole which would eat the Earth, and the other is that a very odd quantum entity called a strangelet might be created, with equally devastating results.
What is different, physicists admit, is that the fragments from cosmic rays will go shooting harmlessly through the Earth at nearly the speed of light, but anything created when the beams meet head-on in the collider will be born at rest relative to the laboratory and so will stick around and thus could create havoc.
From New York Times, March 29, 2008
The new worries are about black holes, which, according to some variants of string theory, could appear at the collider. That possibility, though a long shot, has been widely ballyhooed in many papers and popular articles in the last few years, but would they be dangerous?
According to a paper by the cosmologist Stephen Hawking in 1974, they would rapidly evaporate in a poof of radiation and elementary particles, and thus pose no threat. No one, though, has seen a black hole evaporate.
Lisa Randall, a Harvard physicist whose work helped fuel the speculation about black holes at the collider, pointed out in a paper last year that black holes would probably not be produced at the collider after all, although other effects of so-called quantum gravity might appear.
As part of the safety assessment report, Dr. Mangano and Steve Giddings of the University of California, Santa Barbara, have been working intensely for the last few months on a paper exploring all the possibilities of these fearsome black holes. They think there are no problems but are reluctant to talk about their findings until they have been peer reviewed, Dr. Mangano said.
Dr. Arkani-Hamed said concerning worries about the death of the Earth or universe, “Neither has any merit.” He pointed out that because of the dice-throwing nature of quantum physics, there was some probability of almost anything happening. There is some minuscule probability, he said, “the Large Hadron Collider might make dragons that might eat us up.”
From Phil Plait of Badastronomy.com
The LHC will slam subatomic particles together at fantastic speeds. The collision in a sense shatters the particles and all sorts of weird beasties are created in the aftermath. This give physicists insight into the basic quantum nature of the Universe. The higher the energy of the collision, the more interesting stuff you get. LHC will be the most powerful collider ever built, and is expected to provide really new looks at the quantum world.
If two subatomic particles collide at high enough speed, it’s possible that they will collapse into a black hole. If that happens, it would fall through the Earth and, well, you can guess what bad things would happen then*.
However, studies done by CERN show that the energies generated will be too low to make black holes. Also, due to a weird effect called Hawking radiation, the tiny black holes would evaporate instantly. The two litigants, however, say that Hawking radiation is not an established fact, and therefore we should be more careful. While that’s technically true, they forgot something important: the same rules of quantum physics that make a black hole in a subatomic collision also indicate they would evaporate. So if you’re worried they won’t evaporate, then you shouldn’t be worried they’d be created in the first place.
Same goes for the creation of a . This is a weird conglomeration of particles called quarks, and if a strangelet comes into contact with normal matter can convert it into more strangelets. The idea is that these can cause a chain reaction that turns all available matter into strangelets. That would be bad.
However, first, strangelets are completely theoretical, and again even if they are real it’s incredibly unlikely they would be created even by LHC. And even if they were created, the chances of them being a danger are very small. A study a few years ago by physicists at MIT, Yale, and Princeton shows this to be the case; as they point out, higher energy particles hit the Moon all the time. If strangelets could be created in this way, the Moon would have converted to a big ball o’ strangelets billions of years ago.
So I think that considering things like this happening is good — after all, we’re walking into new territory here — but in this particular case the litigants are wrong. A lawsuit seems like overkill. In fact, it’s so odd that my skeptical gland was tweaked, and I decided to look into the litigants’ backgrounds.
Walter Wagner apparently has a physics background, but was involved in a similar lawsuit over the Brookhaven collider a few years back, which turned out to be completely baseless.
As for the other, Luis Sancho, he’s, well, how do I phrase this delicately? He’s a bit outside the mainstream. Actually, way outside the mainstream. In fact, totally and way way far outside the mainstream. I don’t think you can even see the mainstream from where he is.
While dismissing the idea of any danger from LHC due to these factors would be an ad hominem and therefore unfair, I think it adds a dimension to this case that’s good to keep in mind.
Again, I’m not worried. I don’t see any basis for their fears, and certainly not for their lawsuit.
Here is what CERN has to say on this.
Massive black holes are created in the Universe by the collapse of massive stars, which contain enormous amounts of gravitational energy that pulls in surrounding matter. The gravitational pull of a black hole is related to the amount of matter or energy it contains – the less there is, the weaker the pull. Some physicists suggest that microscopic black holes could be produced in the collisions at the LHC. However, these would only be created with the energies of the colliding particles (equivalent to the energies of mosquitoes), so no microscopic black holes produced inside the LHC could generate a strong enough gravitational force to pull in surrounding matter.
If the LHC can produce microscopic black holes, cosmic rays of much higher energies would already have produced many more. Since the Earth is still here, there is no reason to believe that collisions inside the LHC are harmful.
Black holes lose matter through the emission of energy via a process discovered by Stephen Hawking. Any black hole that cannot attract matter, such as those that might be produced at the LHC, will shrink, evaporate and disappear. The smaller the black hole, the faster it vanishes. If microscopic black holes were to be found at the LHC, they would exist only for a fleeting moment. They would be so short-lived that the only way they could be detected would be by detecting the products of their decay.
Studies into the safety of high-energy collisions inside particle accelerators have been conducted in both Europe and the United States by physicists who are not themselves involved in experiments at the LHC. Their analyses have been reviewed by the expert scientific community, which agrees with their conclusion that particle collisions in accelerators are safe. CERN has mandated a group of particle physicists, also not involved in the LHC experiments, to monitor the latest speculations about LHC collisions; this group may be contacted at lsag@cern.ch.
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To Sum Things Up
All this is well and good, but why do this at all. All this talk of particles and emissions and 99.9% of light speed and black holes and such. What are they actually looking for and is it worth the slight risk that something planet ending could happen.
In 1964, Peter Higgs, a shy scientist in Edinburgh, added his name to a worthy list of scientists by coming up with an ingenious theory that gave scientists the tools to explain how two classes of particles, which now appear to be different, were once one and the same. His theory proposes the existence of a single particle responsible for imparting mass to all things — a speck so precious it has come to be known as the “God particle.” The scientific term for it is the Higgs boson, and to find it physicists are counting on the LHC at the CERN.
Working from Higgs’ theory, scientists postulate that initially weightless particles move through a ubiquitous quantum field, known as a Higgs field, like a pearl necklace through a jar of honey. Some particles, such as photons — weightless carriers of light — can cut through the sticky Higgs field without picking up mass. Others get bogged down and become heavy; that is the process that creates tangible matter. “The Higgs gives everything in the universe its mass,” says David Francis, a physicist on the ATLAS experiment. Pointing at CERN’s grand geological amphitheater of the Jura and the Alps. “None of that is possible without the Higgs.”
Yet so far no once has been able to find the Higgs boson in the stream of debris emitted when two particles are smashed together at high speeds. Scientists at another CERN particle collider, LEP, felt they came close before the accelerator shut down in 2000. Scientists using the Tevatron accelerator at Fermilab near Chicago are still hoping to publish a discovery before CERN starts analyzing data later this year. Higgs says he is 90% sure that the LHC will find it.
“The Higgs field, the standard model, and our picture of how God made the universe depend on finding the Higgs boson,” wrote Nobel laureate Leon Lederman in his 1993 book The God Particle. Thus, if it exists, the Higgs boson has an enormous effect on the world around us.
In my opinion, yes it is worth it. Does it scare me? Yes it does.
In 1945 very little was known about what the actual effect of an atomic explosion would be prior to its actual detonation. There was one theory, for instance, which suggested the detonation might spark a nasty chain reaction that would burn up the entire atmosphere of the planet Earth, instantly and horrifically killing the entire human race in one fell stroke (and just about every other living thing as well). But great scientists don’t let themselves be stopped by little worries like that. The test went forward.
This test will go forward and for good or bad we will probably learn more about the nature of the Universe, however if you are pulled like a Stretch-Armstrong Doll and sucked into a black-hole or if dragons and or Hell-spawned demons rise out of your toilet, I’ll plausibly deny everything.
UPDATED (CERN Successfully tested the LHC in the early hours of Sept. 10th)
- ‘Big Bang’ experiment starts well
- Scientists Begin Testing World’s Largest Atom Smasher
- CERN Launches Particle Collider
- Congratulations, CERN!
- Question of the day: Has the Large Hadron Collider destroyed the Earth yet? Has it unleashed Hell-spawned demons? Whew!
- Uncritical thinking kills, from the Bad Astronomer A very sad, must read!
- Here are 27 pictures from CERN and the LHC nearly complete as of late July, 2008 from Boston.com.
- Katherine McAlpine, aka Alpinekat (a scientific editor at Atlas), posted on Youtube and vimo, a rap about the LHC! And it is very cool!
- As the LHC supposedly gears up, Harvard physicist Kevin Black, based at CERN, investigates rumors that the particle accelerator may, in fact, soon be shut down — by ripples from the future?!?
- At roughly 3:30 a.m. Eastern time, Wednesday, September 10th, scientists at CERN, the European Organization for Nuclear Research, say they will try to send the first beam of protons around a 17-mile-long racetrack known as the Large Hadron Collider, 300 feet underneath the Swiss-French border outside Geneva.And a generation of physicists, watching from control rooms and auditoriums on the scene, on Webcasts at webcast.cern or on Eurovision will meet their destiny. The Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory, or Fermilab, outside Chicago, will hold a “pajama party” for staff members and journalists to watch the events live from a remote control room.The collider, 14 years and $8 billion in the making, is the most expensive scientific experiment to date. Thousands of physicists from dozens of countries have been involved in building the collider and its huge particle detectors. It is designed to accelerate protons to energies of seven trillion electron volts — seven times the energy of the next largest machine in the world, Fermilab’s Tevatron — and smash them together.In recent weeks, there has been a blitzkrieg of papers and predictions on what might or might not be discovered, by theorists eager to get their bets down before the figurative roulette ball drops or the dice begin to tumble.
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RESOURCES
- LHC – The Large Hadron Collider webpage
- Overview of the LHC at CERN’s public webpage
- Challenges in accelerator physics
- LHC UK webpage
- US LHC webpage
- UK Science Museum, London Exhibition supported by the Science and Technology Facilities Council
- The Alice experiment
- Compact Muon Solenoid main page
- Compact Muon Solenoid page (U.S. collaboration)
- LCG – The LHC Computing Grid webpage
- The Large Hadron Collider ATLAS Experiment – Virtual Reality (VR) photography panoramas (requires QuickTime)
- LHC startup plan. Includes dates, energies and luminosities
- Seed short film – Lords of the Ring
- ‘Super-collider’ tunnel nears completion The Independent 1 March 2008
- LHC Defense Fund – Anti-LHC organization
ARTICLES
- Energising the quest for ‘big theory’
- symmetry magazine LHC special issue
- BBC Horizon, The six billion dollar experiment
- New Yorker: Crash Course. The world’s largest particle accelerator (ca. 6 500 words)
- NYTimes: A Giant Takes On Physics’ Biggest Questions (ca. 4 300 words)
- Beam Parameters and Definitions. The chapter of the LHC Technical Design Report (TDR) that lists of all the beam parameters for the LHC.
ab initio. ab intra. 
I found your article was generally quite good except for a few points, but I believe you correctly predict that the experiment may likely go forward for better or worse. I would like to clarify a few points in the article that might tend to be misleading or incorrect.
Argument: “However, studies done by CERN show that the energies generated will be too low to make black holes”
Counter Argument: CERN published predictions that they might create micro black holes at a rate of 1 per second, and incidents at the University of Colorado (cold bosenova implosion) and at the RHIC (hot Fireball as Dual Black Hole implosion) indicate that black hole formation may in fact be an expected result of head on collider collisions, and it is not certain that the first micro black hole has not already been created according to a Nobel Laurite on the University of Colorado team. Links: nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/physics/laureates/2001/cornellwieman-lecture.pdf and arxiv.org/PS_cache/hep-th/pdf/0501/0501068v3.pdf
Argument: “Black holes lose matter through the emission of energy via a process discovered by Stephen Hawking”
Counter Argument: Papers that question Hawking Radiation are linked to from risk-evaluation-forum.org, the papers were published by three separate sets of PHDs and question whether micro black holes might evaporate or not. Links: xxx.lanl.gov/abs/gr-qc/0304042, arxiv.org/PS_cache/gr-qc/pdf/0408/0408009v2.pdf and http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/els/03759601/1995/00000209/00000001/art00785.
Argument: :If the LHC can produce microscopic black holes, cosmic rays of much higher energies would already have produced many more. Since the Earth is still here, there is no reason to believe that collisions inside the LHC are harmful”
Counter Argument: Cosmic ray impacts with stationary particles on Earth do not focus energy as head-on collider collisions do and the results move too quickly to be captured. Though impacts between cosmic rays traveling at the same speed in exactly opposite directions might, the odds of this type of collision happening in nature have not been determined, but the fact that Earth is still here may be evidence that it has not happened on Earth yet.
I came across an interview with Walter Wagner on Coast to Coast AM May 8th and I included an excerpt of that interview in my podcast about the LHC if you want to check it out.
Summary:
The upcoming Large Hadron Collider (LHC) at CERN could be dangerous. It could produce potentially dangerous particles such as mini black holes, strangelets, and monopoles.
A CERN study indicates no danger for earth, [Ref. 1] but its arguments are incomplete. The reasons why they are incomplete are discussed here.
This paper considers mainly micro black holes (MBHs) with low speeds. The fact that the speed of resultant MBHs would be low is unique to colliders. An important issue is the rate of accretion of matter subsequent to MBH creation.
This study explores processes that could cause accretion to be significant.
Other dangers of the LHC accelerator are also discussed.
I. Arguments for danger in LHC particle accelerator experiments
“In the 27-kilometer-long circular tunnel that held its predecessor, the LHC will be the most powerful particle accelerator in the world. It will smash fundamental particles into one another at energies like those of the first trillionth of a second after the Big Bang, when the temperature of the Universe was about ten thousand trillion degrees Centigrade.” [Ref. 5]
1. There is a high probability that micro black holes (MBHs) will be produced in the LHC. A reasonable estimation of the probability that theories with (4+d) dimensions are valid could be more than 60%. The CERN study indicates in this case a copious production of MBHs at the LHC. [Ref. 1] One MBH could be produced every second. [Ref. 4 & Ref. 5]
2. The CERN study indicates that MBHs present no danger because they will evaporate with Hawking evaporation. [Ref. 1] However, Hawking evaporation has never been tested. In several surveys, physicists have estimated a non trivial probability that Hawking evaporation will not work. [Ref. 9] My estimate of its risk of Hawking evaporation failure is 20%, or perhaps as much as 30%.
The following points assume MBH production, and they assume that Hawking evaporation will fail.
3. The cosmic ray model is not valid for the LHC. It has been said that cosmic rays, which have more energy than the LHC, show that there is no danger. This may be true for accelerators that shoot high energy particles at a zero speed target. This is similar to cosmic ray shock on the moon’s surface. In these cases the center of mass of interaction retains a high speed. This is different from the situation at the LHC, where particles with opposing speeds collide. With cosmic rays (mainly protons in cosmic rays) we need a speed of 0.9999995 c to create a micro black hole of 1 TeV and after the interaction the micro black hole center of mass will have a speed of 0.999 c. As MBHs are not very reactive with matter, calculations indicate that this is more than enough velocity to cross planets or stars without being caught and to escape into space.
4. Lower speed MBHs created in colliders could be captured by earth. Using Greg Landsberg’s calculation [Ref. 3] of one black hole with velocity less than escape velocity from earth produced every 10^5 seconds at the LHC, we have 3.160 (US notation 3,160) MBHs captured by earth in ten years. More precise calculations show that we could have a distribution of MBHs at every range of speed from 0 m/sec to 4 m/sec. The probability of very low speed MBHs is not zero. We need to evaluate if low speed MBHs present more risks.
5. The speed of a MBH captured by earth will decrease and at the end MBHs will come to rest in the center of earth. The speed will decrease because of accretion and interaction with matter.
If we consider that:
a. The CERN study’s calculus for accretion uses the “Schwarzschild radius” for the accretion cross section. [Ref. 1] In the case of low speeds, we must not use the Schwarzschild radius for the calculus of accretion. There are several reasons the capture radius extends beyond the Schwarzschild radius. For example, if the MBH speed were zero, gravitational attraction would be active at a distance greater than the Schwarzschild radius.
b. If a MBH accretes an electron, it will acquire a charge and then probably accrete a proton.
c. If a MBH accretes a quark it will then probably accrete a proton. When a quark is caught, the whole nucleon can be expected to be caught because otherwise the black hole would have acquired a charge which is not complete. (For example minus 1/3.) In a nucleus a fractional charge is unstable and is not allowed. This strongly suggests that the MBH will be required to accrete other divided charges to reach a completed integer number of charges. The same process can be expected in regard to quark color.
d. Gauge forces at short distances could also help to capture an atomic nucleus.
Our calculus indicates that a slow speed MBH can be expected to capture 8.400 (US notation 8,400) nucleons every hour, at the beginning of an exponential process.
6. In the center of earth new processes could occur: As stated above, it has been estimated that in ten years 3.160 (US notation 3,160) MBHs could be captured by earth. All MBHs will progressively lose speed because of numerous interactions. After a time (calculations have to be completed to estimate this time) all these MBHs will go toward the precise gravitational center of earth. (Kip Thorne [Ref. 7 p. 111]) After numerous interactions they will stop there at rest and then coalesce into a single MBH. To get an idea and for a first approach our calculus indicates that the mass of this MBH could be on the order of 0.02 g with a radius of 4 x 10^-17 m. At the center of earth, the pressure is 3.6 x 10^11 Pascals. [Ref. 8]. This pressure results from all the matter in Earth pushing on the electronic cloud of central atoms. The move of electrons is responsible of a pressure (called degenerescence pressure) that counterbalance the pressure of all the matter in Earth.
Around a black hole there is not an electronic cloud and there is no degenerescence pressure to counterbalance the pressure of all the Earth matter.To indicate the pressure we must use the surface If in an equation Pressure P = Force F / Surface S if we keep F= Constant and we reduce surface, we are obliged to notice that Pressure P will increase. Here F is the weight of all the matter of Earth and this do not change. As the surface of the MBH will be very small, calculus indicate on this surface an impressive increase of pressure in the range of : P = aprox 7 x 10 ^ 23 Pa .
The high pressure in this region push strongly all the matter in direction of the central point where the MBH is.
Electrons directly in contact with the Micro Black Hole will first be caught, then the nucleus will be caught.
It is sure that the atoms will be caught one after the other but the more the pressure will be important the more the caught will be quick. When a neutron star begins to collapse in a black hole (implosion), at the beginning the black hole is only a micro black hole as we see in [Ref. 7 Page 443]. At this very moment the high gravitational pressure in the center of the neutron star is there breaking the “strong force” which lays between the quarks located into the neutrons.
The MBH will grow there only because of the high pressure.
In center of Earth pressure is normally far to small for such a process, but if we create a slow speed MBH that does not evaporate and if this MBH comes at rest in the center of Earth, the pressure in the center of Earth could be sufficient for the growing of the MBH. We must remember that in the surrounding of the MBH the “strong force” is broken and this could mean that the same kind of pressure process than in neutron star could work there ( in a slow mode compared with a neutron star of course ). In the center of Earth, the high pressure, the high temperature, the increasing mass associated with electrical and gauge forces process could mean important increase of capture and a possible beginning of an exponential dangerous accretion process. Our calculus indicates as a first approximation with a MBH of 0.02 g at rest at the center of earth that the value for accretion of matter could be in the range of 1 g/sec to 5 g/sec.
7. Conclusion about MBHs : We estimate that for LHC the risk in the range of 7% to 10%.
II. Other Risk Factors
The CERN study indicates that strangelets and monopoles could be produced and present no danger for earth. [Ref. 1]
We will present arguments of possible danger.
1. Strangelets
Strangelets are only dangerous for earth if they are not moving rapidly through matter. If only one strangelet is at zero speed there would be danger. We have seen for MBHs that the cosmic ray model is very different from the LHC where particles with opposing speeds collide. We have seen that, given the impact of opposite speed particles, the distribution of speeds of resultant particles indicates the probability of very low speeds (0 m/sec < speed < 4 m/sec) and this could mean dangerous strangelets. We estimate a minimal risk for strangelets on the order of 2%. We might estimate as high as 10 % if we want to be wise because the danger is primary!
2. Monopoles
Monopoles could be produced in the LHC. [Ref. 1] .CERN’s calculations indicate that one monopole produced in LHC could destroy 1.018 (US notation 1,018) nucleons but it will quickly traverse the earth and escape into space. However, we know that photons produced in the center of the sun need thousands of years to traverse the sun and escape into space because of the numerous interactions. If the speed given to the monopole after interaction is a speed in a random direction, we can imagine that the monopoles produced in the LHC could stay a very long time in earth and be dangerous. 3. Estimate of danger due to our ignorance of ultimate physical laws: We have not exhausted processes that might cause danger. There are other particles, black energy, black mass, quintessence, vacuum energy, and many non definitive theories. We estimate this danger ranging from a minimal 2% risk to 5%.
III. CONCLUSION
The CERN study [Ref. 1] is a remake of a similar study for the earlier Relativistic Heavy Ion Collider at Brookhaven (RHIC) [Ref. 6] adapted to the LHC.
It is important to notice that: The study for the RHIC had concluded that no black holes will be created. For the LHC the conclusion is very different: “Black holes could be created!” !
The main danger could be now just behind our door with the possible death in blood of 6.500.000.000 (US notation 6,500,000,000) people and complete destruction of our beautiful planet. Such a danger shows the need of a far larger study before any experiment ! The CERN study presents risk as a choice between a 100% risk or a 0% risk. This is not a good evaluation of a risk percentage!
If we add all the risks for the LHC we could estimate an overall risk between 11% and 25%!.
We are far from the Adrian Kent’s admonition that global risks that should not exceed 0.000001% a year to have a chance to be acceptable. [Ref. 3] .Even testing the LHC could be dangerous. Even an increase in the luminosity of the RHIC could be dangerous! It would be wise to consider that the more powerful the accelerator will be, the more unpredicted and dangerous the events that may occur! We cannot build accelerators always more powerful with interactions different from natural interactions, without risk. This is not a scientific problem. This is a wisdom problem!
Our desire of knowledge is important but our desire of wisdom is more important and must take precedence. The precautionary principle indicates not to experiment. The politicians must understand this evidence and stop these experiments before it is too late!
Fausto Intilla –
http://www.oloscience.com
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References:
1.. Study of potentially dangerous events during heavy-ion collisions at the LHC: Report of the LHC Safety Study Group. CERN 2003-001. February 28, 2003.
2.. E-mail exchange between Greg Landsberg and James Blodgett, March 2003,
http://www.risk-evaluation-forum.org.
(No longer posted. Request a copy. Risk Evaluation Forum, BOX 2371, Albany, NY 12220 0371 USA.)
3.. A critical look at risk assessment for global catastrophes, Adrian Kent, CERN-TH 2000-029 DAMTP-2000-105. Revised April 2003. hep-ph/0009204. Available at:
http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/hep-ph/pdf/0009/0009204. …
4.. High energy colliders as black hole factories: the end of short distance physics, Steven B. Giddings, Scott Thomas. Phys Rev D65 (2002) 056010.
5.. CERN to spew black holes, Nature October 2, 2001.
6.. Review of speculative disaster scenarios at RHIC September 28, 1999 W.Busza, R.L. Jaffe, J.Sandweiss and F.Wilczek.
7.. Trous noirs et distorsions du temps, Kip S. Thorne, Flammarion 1997. ISBN 2-08-0811463-X. Original title: Black holes and times warps. 1994 Norton. New York.
8.. Centre de la Terre, Science & Vie N 1042. Gallate 2004.
9.. Results of several Delphi groups and physicist questionnaires, James Blodgett, Risk Evaluation Forum, forthcoming.
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THE SHORT-TERM AND LONG-TERM CONSEQUENCES OF THE FAILURE OF LARGE HADRON COLLIDER EXPERIMENT CONDUCTED AT FRANCO-SWISS BORDER
Why have been there many natural disasters in the recent times? Are more of those expected in the near future and why?
The answer is “YES”.
The Explanation:
There has been a shake-up in the Core of the Earth, which keeps the Earth in balance, of about 0.05% because of the failure of Large Hadron Collider Experiment due to error in methodology and because of which the following have happened or would be happening in future:
• Earthquakes and Tsunamis may occur
• There would be slight changes in the remote control systems that control the electronic (magnetic) equipment (satellites and others) present in the space. Difference would appear in the remote control systems.
• Imbalance in climate; seasons would alter.
• Jerk in the North Pole and the ice starts breaking and falling down (with a diameter of around 10-20 kilometers).
• Movement (speed) of the Earth would become slow; the time would change. Instead of 24 hours, the time period per day would increase by 1 minute. Second by second, the time would increase by one minute per day. So, it would become 24 hours and one minute a day.
(As predicted & explained by a Scientific Saint – Sri Sri Sri Guru Viswa Sphoorthi, who had acquired Supreme Wisdom and Absolute Knowledge after years of meditation, and who believes Spirituality is nothing but, “Super Science” and explains it on a scientific basis. More about Guruji, all His writings in full, and His Media Concept [first of its kind in the history of Creation] can be known at http://www.sphoorthi.info)
Guruji had discussed with some of devotees about why the Large Hadron Collider Experiment would fail and the short-term and long-term consequences of the failure on the 28th day of September 2008. The following is the translation of the conversation as is:
(Large Hadron Collider (LHC) Experiment): The project related to test the Big-Bang Theory of how the universe began will not be completed successfully. The scientists would not get the predicted result. As I expected, when they have started the protons (particles), the super-magnets got heated. When they got heated they had stopped the particles movement, they set it right, and again continued the experiment. Now they are revolving there. They are revolving with plus and minus. One goes this way and the other goes that way. Actually they have to collide. The protons (positive and negative) have to collide. When they collide the heat generates. The heat generated would be about 100,000 (Hundred Thousand) centigrade. There should be generation of at least 100,000 centigrade, and then the particle beyond the proton would appear. The experiment will fail there. Until collision it will be absolutely fine. They have to postpone the experiment. The particles will not collide functionally at the time they want. The path (way) changes. They would get out of the path by the time they come near for collision. The beams of particles are not coming in correct track. It would take around a week from now for them to come nearer for collision. When they collide there is need of magnetic cooling. If the magnets get heated by then, then those beams of particles will stop there itself. Then when would they collide? But if 100,000 centigrade is generated nothing would be left over there. The proton will be extracted only if 100,000 centigrade is generated, otherwise no. If the proton is not extracted then the experiment will not be successful. But there will be certain side effects because of this experiment.
Side Effects of the Experiment:
1. There will be Core in the center of Earth. Because of this experiment, the Core of Earth would shake up to 0.05%. That which keeps the Earth in balance is that Core itself. Core of Earth is constant, and there is no chance of misbalancing it; otherwise the Earth would fall down in entirety. With the effect of this experiment, that Core would shake up to 0.05%. Because of this, Earthquakes and Tsunamis may occur in seas (oceans).
2. There would be slight changes in the remote control systems that control the electronic (magnetic) equipment (satellites and others) present in the space. Difference would appear at the remote control systems.
3. There will be an imbalance in the climate. Seasons will be altered to some extent (a little before or after).
4. There will be a jerk in the North Pole and the ice starts breaking and fall down (with a diameter of around 10-20 kilometers).
5. The movement (speed) of the Earth would become slow. Hence, the time would change. Instead of 24 hours the time period per day would increase by 1 minute. Second by second, the time would increase by one minute per day. So, it would become 24 hours and one minute a day.
All the aforementioned side effects will be due the failed experiment. All these side effects will not be understood by these people now. This is because the process they have thought and followed is completely wrong. Idea and wish is good but, the methodology is wrong. They did not understand the dimensional process. They have to change the dimensional process, one by one. That did not happen. That’s why it is not possible. If they had conducted the experiment in the axis of poles then it would have been successful to some extent. That electromagnetic force would have cooperated. That is not present near France and Swiss. These are all limitations in the human knowledge. If they continue to do the experiment then the only thing they would get is “BEGINNING OF THE MATTER”. For example: Sprout comes out from seed. But there is seed before sprout. There is tree before seed if you go back. Well then, there is a lot of history before proton. According to the scientists involved in the experiment, matter started with proton. That is wrong. There is as much history before proton as it is after proton. The Creation before proton is as much as it is after proton, for that formation. The Creation goes like a circle and comes back. Proton is the limit. Proton is like zero. There is Creation before zero and after zero. Both the Creations complete the circles and end with the proton.
These scientists are seeing the Creation after proton. What would be there? It would be only half of the Creation. They cannot go back before proton and see the Creation. They are unable to see the back of the Moon itself. How can they go back of the proton? It is not possible. Just because they have to do some activity they are doing it. More than benefit, there is loss with it. People are saying that Creation would extinct? Where would Creation go? All the species of all the organisms would be present as is. Actually, the experiment should not be conducted here on the Earth. It has to be conducted in space. In the infinite universe, this Earth is like a small egg. What Creation is present on Earth? There is nothing at all on Earth. This is just a bit. How can there be origin in this? They have to go to space. But there is no possibility of that. With less calculations, more subject knowledge, with the eagerness that they should do something they are spending millions of dollars just because they are getting them for free. That is wrong.
Layman explanation for Big Bang: For example: Consider a pot with water in it. When the pot breaks then the water and broken pieces of pot are spread all over. In that case all the pieces of matter will be only of pot – the same matter but, there will not be different matter. If we consider breaking of pot of water as Big Bang explosion the resultant “matter” out of that explosion should be of different types (as the matter in the universe is of different types) but, when the pot of water breaks that is not what happens. It is the same matter and water all-over. This is one thing. The second thing is before the pot of water broke – the pot, and the water in it already existed which means matter already existed before the explosion. This means universe and the matter was existing before the explosion. Big Bang explosion is the starting point of Creation of universe.
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Great job! Can’t wait to start my own blog.